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She Was Cut From American Idol.
But A Record Executive Had Already Decided She Was Enough.

The Tori Kelly Story

The Person Who Believed In Me  ·  Hosted by David Begnaud

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"Tori Kelly was twelve years old and was already a veteran of Star Search when she walked into the office of Polly Anthony, the first woman ever to run a major record label. Polly signed her and never once asked her to be anyone other than who she was. Her experience with Polly was defining, but after she moved to a new role years of rejection followed - a new executive who didn't want her, and a Simon Cowell verdict that her voice was 'almost annoying,'. Tori built her own audience on YouTube instead, then landed three Grammys, a gospel album with Kirk Franklin, and a health scare that put her in the ICU. Polly's belief in a shy twelve-year-old outlasted her - all the way to Epic Records, the label Polly once ran."

- David Begnaud

Part One

A Twelve-Year-Old Walked Into a Record Label. The Woman Who Ran It Never Asked Her to Change.

By twelve, Tori Kelly had already been on Star Search and a show called America's Most Talented Kids - singing, doing her thing, not winning either one. But the exposure got her noticed, and one thing led to another: she was brought into the office of Polly Anthony, the head executive at Geffen Records and the first woman to ever run a major record label. Back then, walking into a label was everything. And Tori walked in as exactly what she was - a literal child, with her whole family in tow, because you don't just drop a twelve-year-old off at a record company.

Polly made every one of them feel safe. "I remember how sweet she was to all of us," Tori's mom would later recall. There was a warmth to her, a maternal quality Tori felt immediately and never stopped feeling. Around the industry, Tori could sense people looking at her and doing math - great voice, but how do we package that, how do we sell it. She compared herself at the time to the bubbly Disney kids everyone seemed to want. Polly never once suggested she be more outgoing, more polished, more anything. She just believed in her, from the start, exactly as she was.

Tori didn't fully grasp at twelve what it meant that a major label executive had walked her into that office to sign her. There was no posting videos back then, no other way to make it. What she did understand, even then, was the difference in how it felt to be in a room with Polly versus everywhere else - and by that point, she'd already spent most of her life being told, gently or otherwise, that she wasn't quite it yet.

"I remember meeting Polly and she immediately just made me feel so comfortable and safe. She had this warmth about her, and she was so maternal, I felt, towards me."

- Tori Kelly

▶ Watch on YouTube: Tori on first meeting Polly Anthony - ~2:31

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
Think about what it takes for a twelve-year-old to feel like the industry sees her as a product to be packaged rather than a person to be known. Now think about how rare it is for one adult - one executive with every reason to be thinking about marketability - to just not do that. Polly Anthony didn't try to sell Tori Kelly. She saw her. That distinction is the whole engine of this show.

Part Two

Before Polly, There Was Only No. A Talent Show. Star Search. A Kid Who Just Wanted to Be Understood.

By the time she walked into Polly's office, Tori Kelly had not had a single big win. She'd competed on Star Search and lost. She'd competed on America's Most Talented Kids and lost. There had been no viral moment, no breakout, nothing that would have told an outsider this was a kid on her way to three Grammys. Just a shy girl who loved to sing, going up against the best of whatever room she was put in, and coming up short.

She'd been singing, in some form, since before she could talk - working out melodies as a toddler, performing on actual stages by around age six. Her parents were her biggest fans, both musical themselves, and she believed them when they told her she could sing. But belief from your parents and belief from the world are two different things, and looking back at a photo of herself at eleven, the year of America's Most Talented Kids, she remembers a kid who was "very, very shy," who loved to sing but mostly just wanted to be heard.

Asked point blank whether you can be a superstar and be shy, she says yes now - she points to Michael Jackson as an example rr- but she didn't believe it then. She didn't know yet how to perform. What she knew was that she could get people's attention with her talent. What she didn't know was whether that would ever be enough.

"I think I just thought, up until this point, will anyone understand me? I think that was what I wanted. I knew I could get people's attention with my talent, but I didn't know if that was enough."

- Tori Kelly

▶ Watch on YouTube: The years of no before Polly said yes - ~5:09

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
Will anyone understand me. That's not a talent question. That's the question underneath every talent question. A lot of gifted kids never get an adult who answers it. Tori had two, at least - parents who never told her to be quiet, and eventually Polly, who answered it without ever saying a word about it.

Part Three

Polly Left the Label. The Man Who Replaced Her Said Wait Until You're Sixteen. Tori Said No.

Not long after signing her, Polly moved into a different position within the label - the details of exactly why are hazy to Tori even now - and someone else stepped in and inherited every artist she'd signed. Tori felt the shift immediately. This new executive hadn't chosen her. He had his own priorities, his own artists he wanted to focus on. The meetings kept happening, but something had gone flat. She was thirteen years old, and the label that had once felt like everything was starting to feel like a place she was being shelved.

There were comments about waiting - maybe when she was sixteen it would be easier to market her, more appealing. Tori and her parents made a decision instead: ask to leave. She was thirteen, with almost no experience reading an industry room, and yet she trusted the gut feeling that told her something wasn't right - a feeling she now knows was real, not just an echo of what her parents wanted her to feel. "It doesn't really feel like that's what I wanna do," she remembers thinking. "We might as well leave, and I can be a normal kid for a second."

No music from that Geffen era ever came out. But Polly, while she was still there, had been putting Tori in the studio with major producers, chasing different sounds, even having her cut a cover of Mariah Carey's "Vision of Love" to show the world what her voice could do next to a legend's. There are still songs from that period sitting in a vault somewhere. Tori sometimes wonders what would happen if she finally let them out.

"It doesn't really feel like that's what I wanna do. We might as well leave, and I can be a normal kid for a second."

- Tori Kelly

▶ Watch on YouTube: Leaving Geffen at thirteen - ~12:40

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
Parents have the ability to either elevate or derail a child's dream. Tori's parents did the harder, less obvious version of elevating hers: they didn't push her to stay somewhere that no longer felt right just because it was a record label. They let a thirteen-year-old's gut feeling count for something. That is its own quiet form of belief - the belief that your kid's instincts are worth trusting, even when the whole industry is telling you to wait.

Part Four

Simon Cowell Called Her Voice "Almost Annoying". She Went Home, Picked Up a Guitar, and Found the Internet.

At sixteen, Tori auditioned for American Idol's ninth season. In the room, she got yes after yes after yes - and then Simon Cowell said no, calling her voice "almost annoying." It barely registered. She'd already gotten the yeses she needed to feel like she'd made it. She made it all the way up to the point right before the public could start voting - the judges and producers were the ones who ultimately cut her, not America. Later, walking through a hallway, she passed Simon and braced for something awkward. Instead he smirked and told her: "That was really good." She was floored. He'd just called her almost annoying on camera.

She suspects, looking back, that the show was fishing for a story to attach to her name - a dead relative, a day job she was trying to escape, anything more dramatic than "I'm just a singer, that's all I want to do." That wasn't enough for television. It was enough, eventually, for the rest of the world. She was sad for about a day. Then a family friend taught her a few guitar chords, she taught herself to engineer and produce on her home computer, and she started posting videos.

A Frank Ocean cover pulled in tens of millions of views. For the first time, there was no label, no judge, no executive standing between her and an audience - just her, directly to the fan. She'd go on to sit across from more label executives, hearing the same notes she'd heard as a twelve-year-old: not outgoing enough, not ready yet, we've got someone like you already. Every closed door, one after another, until the internet responded in real time and nobody had to say yes for her to keep going.

"He had this smirk on his face and he was just like, 'That was really good.' And I was like - what? He just said I was annoying in there, but okay."

- Tori Kelly, on Simon Cowell backstage

▶ Watch on YouTube: Simon Cowell, the cut, and finding the internet - ~17:32

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
I told Tori something I believe deeply, and I'll say it here too: I'll push when I get a no. But after the second or third no, I really respect it, because I've come to look at it as the universe trying to redirect me. Tori and I share that instinct - take the no as a maybe, come back and try to do it better. But at some point, the no's become the red flag. And appreciating that, actually letting yourself hear it, can be pivotal in a life. Hers pivoted her straight past every label and into her own hands.

Part Five

She Walked Into Capitol Records and Said I Don't Need You. Then Scooter Braun Couldn't Even Get Into Her Show.

For years, it was just Tori and her fans - no label, no middleman, videos going viral, shows selling out on the strength of an audience she'd built entirely on her own. Eventually she recognized what a label could still offer: money, resources, a different kind of reach. But trusting one again, after Geffen, was its own ordeal. When she finally sat down with Capitol Records, she told them exactly where she stood. She had a fan base. She had momentum. "I don't feel like I need you guys," she remembers saying, "but I would love to have a partnership with you." As a twelve-year-old at Geffen, she'd been asked over and over what her platform was. Now, as an adult, she was the one walking in with one already built.

Capitol took it well. Tori thinks of that meeting as a small marker of a larger shift happening across the industry right then - labels beginning to sign artists the internet had already discovered, realizing they didn't have all the answers anymore either.

Around the same time, a manager named Scooter Braun - who'd already worked with Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande - showed up to a sold-out coffee house show at a small room in LA called Room Five, holding maybe fifty people. He wasn't on the list. Security wouldn't let him in until a friend of Tori's spotted him and vouched for him. Tori had no idea he was coming. She was hesitant to sign with another big name - she'd just come off a short, fizzled stint with the Jonas Brothers' management company and had proven to herself she didn't need anybody. But sitting with Scooter at his house, she felt something familiar: he saw her talent and didn't want to change a thing about it. About a year later, she was nominated for Best New Artist at the Grammys.

"He couldn't even get into the show - which is hilarious, because he's Scooter Braun. They weren't letting him in because it was sold out. One of my friends saw him and said, he's with me."

- Tori Kelly, on Scooter Braun

▶ Watch on YouTube: Capitol Records and the night Scooter Braun couldn't get in - ~33:00

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
There's something poetic about the biggest name in the room having to talk his way past a bouncer to watch a girl he didn't sign yet. Tori spent years building the thing nobody would hand her - an audience - and by the time the industry came calling again, she was the one setting the terms. That's not luck. That's a twelve-year-old's rejection turning, slowly, into a twenty-something's leverage.

Part Six

She Dedicated Her Grammy to Any Girl Who'd Been Told She Was Close. Then She Landed at Polly's Old Label.

Two years after her Best New Artist nomination and a performance alongside James Bay at the Grammys, Tori pivoted away from the pop machine and toward her roots, making "Hiding Place" with gospel legend Kirk Franklin. It became the highest-selling gospel album of 2017 and won two Grammys in 2019, for Best Gospel Album and Best Gospel Performance/Song. Walking up to the stage - a walk she remembers as impossibly long - she had time to flash back to herself as a little girl watching the Grammys on TV, as if watching herself from outside her own body. When she got there, she dedicated the award to any girl who'd faced rejection. She wanted to speak to herself as a kid.

On July 23, 2023, she collapsed at dinner in downtown Los Angeles. Doctors found a blood clot that had traveled to her legs and lungs - deep vein thrombosis and a pulmonary embolism - and she spent a week in the ICU at Cedars-Sinai, in and out of consciousness. Through all of it, Tori says she never felt afraid - just tired, at peace, leaning on her faith the way she always has. Less than three weeks later, with her doctors' green light, she was back on stage.

Today Tori is signed to Epic Records - which, she only realized fairly recently, is the very label Polly Anthony went on to run. She thought of Polly when she won her first Grammy, and of everyone else who'd said yes and no along the way. And this year, she went back to American Idol - the show that told her she wasn't enough at sixteen - as a mentor to season 24's contestants, seeing herself in every kid nervous enough to wonder what they were doing there. Asked to introduce herself to an audience who'd never heard of her, all these years and rejections later, she landed on something simple: "I write songs from the heart." Then, closing the interview, she said the only thing left to say. "I'm Tori Kelly, and the person who believed in me was Polly Anthony."

"I thought of myself as a little girl watching the Grammys in that moment... I had some time to think about that, and I just had this flashback of me watching, like, as if I was watching myself. I wanted to speak to myself as a kid."

- Tori Kelly

▶ Watch on YouTube: The Grammy dedication, the ICU, and landing at Polly's old label - ~41:37

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
People kept telling Tori she was one hit away, so close, we just have to crack the code. She told me the question that stayed with her was always the same: close to what, though? There's always a higher level to get to. What settled her wasn't a hit. It was having her son, and it was finally sitting with a reflection like this one, surrounded by Polly's photo, and realizing how much of the peace she has now was seeded by one woman who believed in her before there was any evidence to justify it. Polly Anthony never got to see the Grammys, the gospel album, the ICU recovery, or Epic Records. But she's in every bit of it.
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"I'm Tori Kelly, and the person who believed in me was Polly Anthony."

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