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She Was the 13th Choice.
Her Father Told Her
Not to Stop.

The Sharon Stone Story

The Person Who Believed In Me  ·  Hosted by David Begnaud

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"Sharon Stone grew up in a small Pennsylvania town where beauty had no currency and being too smart was a behavioral problem. Her father, Joe Stone - The Legend - saw all of it. When she was punished for helping in school, Joe picked her up, put her on his lap in the principal's office, and told the school it wasn't going to stop. She's been running on that permission ever since."

- David Begnaud

Part One

The Legend. The Principal's Office. The Ice Cream.

Joseph William Stone III had a nickname: The Legend. He was handsome, chivalrous, impossibly tough, and impossibly tender - a machine-shop laborer who wore three-piece suits and a fedora on weekends and pulled Sharon's mother's chair out for dinner every night. His own father was killed in an oil well explosion when Joe was four, leaving the family destitute. He and his brother lived in farm stalls as young children, doing chores to survive.

Sharon was six or seven years old, living in Saegerstown, Pennsylvania, when the school summoned her father from his swing-shift job an hour away. The offense: she had been teaching her classmates cursive and multiplication while the rest of the class was still on printing and addition. She had also recruited two other girls to do the same. The principal called it disruptive and said it needed to stop. Her father, Joe, listened, turned around, looked at Sharon and asked: "Is this true?" She said yes, sir, it is. He picked her up, placed her on his lap, and said to the principal: "Here's what's gonna happen. It's not going to stop. She's going to keep right on doing it. Are we all clear? We're going for ice cream. Do not call me away from my job again for this kind of shenanigans."

There was no further discussion at the ice cream shop. No lecture, no debrief, no conditions. He just took her out and fed her ice cream. But that was the beginning of a decades-long message: you are allowed to be exactly what you are. Don't fold yourself in to fit the room.

"He was very tough with me. If I tried to be less than my best to fit in, I was reprimanded."

- Sharon Stone

▶ Watch on YouTube: The principal's office and ice cream - ~8:20

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
Sharon's father worked his butt off, so getting called in to drive an hour away to a school meeting was not something he took lightly. And when he heard what the problem was, he didn't apologize to the teacher. He didn't discipline Sharon. He picked her up and put her on his lap and told the principal it was going to keep happening. I want you to sit with the weight of that for a second. What that does to a child - to be held like that in public, to have someone in authority look at the institution and say: not a chance. That's not a small thing.

Part Two

The Confrontation on the Stairs. The Day He Stopped.

Joe Stone was also a hitter. Sharon described it plainly: like the Great Santini. Belt off, real whippings, stairs - the whole thing. He was harder on her than on her brothers, and she endured it until she was fourteen, when something shifted in her. He was yelling at her to come downstairs "right goddamn now." She walked down one step at a time - like the Queen of France, she said - walked up to his face, and told him: "Why? Do you need to hit me some more to feel like a man? Is that what's going on here? Cause if you do, let's get with it. But I will never love you again. I'm done."

He cried. He told her to go to her room. And he never hit anyone again. Ever. After that, she said, they started talking - really talking. They became very close, very quickly. Within a year Sharon had found her way to Buddhism, which began with reading Siddhartha and The Prophet aloud to an injured neighbor boy immobilized in a body cast in a motorhome, who needed someone to sit with him. The stillness of that experience, she said, planted something in her she had been looking for.

"He cried. He went, 'Go to your room.' And he never hit anybody again. It was over."

- Sharon Stone

▶ Watch on YouTube: The confrontation at fourteen - ~13:36

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
I've heard a lot of complicated father stories on this show. This one is different because she holds both things at once without flinching. She talks about the belt and the stairs with the same voice she uses to talk about being put on his lap in the principal's office. He hurt her and he believed in her - and she doesn't make one of those things disappear to tell a cleaner story. What got me was what she said he did after she confronted him. He cried. He stopped. Completely. Not a conversation, not a process - just over.

Part Three

The Phone Call with the Gun Cabinet. Going for a Walk.

Sharon was in her twenties in California when a boyfriend began physically threatening her. She locked herself in the bathroom and called her father in rural Pennsylvania. He told her to put the phone on speaker and open the door. She obeyed. Her father called out the man's name. The man, confused, asked who was on the phone. She said: my dad. He said: called your daddy? Her father then described, slowly, the sounds: the gun cabinet unlocking, two shells going into the shotgun, then his footsteps walking toward the airport. He told the man that if he didn't hear the door shut behind him right now, he was going to come out there and blow his ass all over the living room. Click. The man was gone. Her father then calmly told her to take a chair and put it under the door handle.

Near the end of his life, Joe Stone came to stay with Sharon for his final four months - exactly four months, to the day. She had spent weeks before his arrival cleaning her entire house on her hands and knees, emptying every cupboard, relabeling every can, painting every shelf, and quietly outfitting the guest house with hospital-grade safety features disguised as beautiful design: handles by the toilet and tub that looked like they had always been there, lighting inside every cabinet. She told her brother, she wanted it to be perfect. She didn't want him to hit his head on the fireplace.

Joe Stone had a practice he never told most people about. He called it "going for a walk" or "going to the hardware store." He would go out - to a park, to a store, wherever - and wait until someone came to him with a problem, and then he would help them. Before he came to Sharon's house, he told her he wasn't sure he was done. He didn't know if he could beat it, but he'd try. He said: when I'm four months out, be ready. He was four months out from the day he arrived. He died exactly four months to the day.

"He would go out and wait until someone came to him with a problem. And then he would help them. He called it going for a walk."

- Sharon Stone, on her father's lifelong practice

▶ Watch on YouTube: The phone call and Joe's final months - ~39:21

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
Going for a walk. He never called it ministry. He never called it service. He just went somewhere and made himself available. And people came to him. I think about the kind of person you have to be for that to work - for strangers to sense, without explanation, that this is the person I should talk to. Joe Stone was that person. And he raised a daughter who inherited it. She walks into rooms and pregnant women cross the room to tell her things. She walks into the woods and deer come to her. She's the thing he made. And she knows it. That was the whole reason she came here today.

Part Four

The Nine-Day Brain Hemorrhage. The Vanilla Milkshake in a Mason Jar.

In 2001, right after September 11th, Sharon Stone had a vertebral artery rupture. She was misdiagnosed for three days, dying on the operating table and being defibrillated before being transferred to a neurological ICU. She was on IV Dilaudid - synthetic heroin - for extreme pain, hallucinating, going in and out of a coma in which she kept falling through stacks of colored fabric, hearing Simon and Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water on a loop, and seeing scenes from Cinema Paradiso. She had a 1% chance of survival. She had lost 18% of her body mass and could not eat.

Her mother sat outside the room like a sentry, still in the dirty gardening clothes she had been wearing when she got the call, refusing to wash them or leave. Her father came inside. He told Sharon she had to eat something - they were losing her, she was disintegrating. He asked if there was anything she could possibly eat. She said: a vanilla milkshake. He didn't go to the hospital cafeteria. He drove to Baskin-Robbins, bought French vanilla ice cream, found a mason jar (because that's what they drank out of growing up), made the milkshake at home, packed it in a cooler with ice, bought straws, drove back, and fed it to her through the side of the hospital bed because she couldn't move.

That milkshake got her to eat. And Joe Stone, who had once mocked her Buddhism, allowed her to guide him through a meditation practice when he was diagnosed with esophageal cancer and given a 3% chance of survival. The tumor pulled back inside his esophagus. He had the surgery. His heartbeat was so strong during the operation that the surgeons had never heard anything like it - they called him The Bull. Sharon bought the hospital the machine they had to borrow to complete his surgery.

"He goes, 'Jesus Christ, I'll drink monkey piss if that's what I have to do.' And everybody started laughing."

- Sharon Stone, on her father agreeing to try her healing methods

▶ Watch on YouTube: The brain hemorrhage, the milkshake, and healing her dad - ~45:03

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
The milkshake in the mason jar. He got French vanilla from Baskin-Robbins, found a mason jar because that's what they drank out of as kids, made it at home, packed it in a cooler, bought straws. That is not a person running an errand. That is a person trying to reach his daughter through the one sensory memory strong enough to find her. He reached all the way back to their childhood, to what she loved, to a container she would recognize, to bring her something that said: you are still you, and I am still here. It worked. She ate.

Part Five

The 13th Choice. The Part That Was Always Hers.

Before Basic Instinct, Sharon Stone couldn't get cast. Her manager told her flatly: they don't think you're sexy. She wasn't the obvious choice. She was, famously, the thirteenth choice for the role. On set, a line producer refused to learn her name and called her Karen. She spent every makeup test fighting to wipe off what she called the "bimbo overlay." None of it stopped her. She had decided the part was hers - and she went to extraordinary lengths to prove it, including arranging a Playboy cover shoot specifically to show casting directors what they couldn't see.

The film became number one in the world. She made five hundred thousand dollars. And when David asked her what the takeaway was - from fighting through every obstacle to claim a role no one thought she deserved - she answered without hesitation: "If it's yours, it's yours. When it's your number, it happens." She didn't say grind harder. She didn't say believe in yourself. She said: know the difference between what's yours and what isn't, and don't stop moving toward what is.

"If it's yours, it's yours. Whether it's a movie part or your boyfriend or a job - when it's your number, it happens."

- Sharon Stone

▶ Watch on YouTube: The 13th choice and Basic Instinct - ~1:00:06

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
She told me she was resented for being a sex symbol. And then she said: I wasn't a sex symbol. I was a symbol of a woman you couldn't control. The room went quiet after that. I've been doing interviews for 25 years and that line landed differently than almost anything I've heard. The woman who a line producer refused to name, who wiped off the makeup they put on her, who arranged her own Playboy cover to prove a point - she was not passive in any of this. She was relentless. And her dad made that. He made her someone who would not fold to get the room to like her.

The Closing

I Work My Own Door.

When David asked Sharon what her father would want her to say - not to him, but to the people listening - she paused and then delivered a message she clearly had been carrying for a long time. There will be many people in your life, she said, who try to tell you who you are. Not just who you are, but how you're supposed to handle it, and what you're supposed to do with it. Only you know. Because only you can hear the divine speak not only to you, but through you. You are a divine messenger, and you must be willing to let it flow through you - for the greatest good of the greatest number of people.

She talked about puzzle pieces. About that satisfying click when the last piece drops in. About how you can only feel that click - and let others feel it - if you are fully yourself, fully extended. If someone else has their hand up your back running your show, she said, it's because they are not fulfilling themselves. They are trying to run your show because they can't run their own. She looked at David when she said the final line. It had been her father's. It had become hers.

"Joseph William Stone the Third taught me I am my own Door."

- Sharon Stone

▶ Watch on YouTube: Sharon's closing message - ~1:05:00

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David Begnaud
Host, The Person Who Believed In Me
✦ David's Take
I told her at the end of this conversation that I hope she is remembered not for the sex symbol - but for that. For what she said in that room. Because it is not a celebrity talking. It is a woman who survived things she shouldn't have survived, who was underestimated by everyone she didn't let in, who had a father who handed her a phrase that explained everything. I work my own door. I've been doing this show for months now. I don't know that I've heard a more complete answer to the question of what belief from one person can do for you. It can make you someone who never has to let anyone else open your door again.
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